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EarnByLoaning.com; scam or not?
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Abe
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: The Sky is falling now Reply with quote

It seem that the cash cow that was at least part of the source to generate those huge returns for Jolly's EBL scheme was Legisi. And how do I know that, picard told me so indirectly.

Why Legisi is in the "Scam" folder here makes no sense at all. Like I said, they are doing just fine. There are obviously some non-members making false accusations.

Here is a screen shot of my last withdrawal:





The main reason I came here was because someone was referencing a post in this forum that simply was not true. BTW, Legisi is not in the scam folder on Talk Gold nor on noBSnetwork nor on MMG.

I guess the evidence criteria here is a little different...

www.earnbyloaning.com
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Originally Posted by ScamDetector who claimed that EBL had screwed him out of $2000.00.

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Can you post the info and proof? What is your EBL username? PM if you want it private...... Did you try resolving the problem with JLP? So far there had been a lot of fictitious claims of being scammed, I mean it doesn't really help if people would just start posting false accusations to reliable programs and on the otherhand, cheer unto those programs who are clearly shady. Not that I am calling you a liar but we just want a concrete evidence with regards to your plight. Hope this will not be another case of "Legisi-is-a-scam syndrome" - smear campaigns flooded Legisi but until now it is still up and going.... and going strong.... Paying big time.... maybe a lot thought wrong that it is a scam, aye?!

No, they haven't contacted me.

Googlesearch and talkgold (though I think I know who you are...) feel free to e-mail me at: golf4enlightenment@yahoo.com or pm me or post here with your username and specifics about your issue and I will look into your them personally.

I'm a mod in the EBL forum and help folks routinely. I'll help any person claiming to have an issue with EBL. In spite of this offer, no one who made such a claim has ever yet followed up with me.

Also, without exception, people who make claims of not being paid by EBL never provide a username. This should not surprise anyone because they can't. If they were real members, they would want help, but these folks don't seem to behave like folks who want help.

The simple facts are: This program has been around and paying religiously since Feb 2006. I've been a member since June 2007, so my first 120-day loan will come due in mid-October. I'll be happy to send anyone a scanned copy of my first check if they e-mail the above address in late October (takes 2 weeks to get one's check). I've also personally met Craig Jolly in late June of this year and have gotten to know the rest of the support staff (Troy and Kerry). You won't find better support anywhere IMHO.

BTW, your observation on Legisi is spot on. I've been with them for over a year and half and it was one of my better decisions.

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Sure make me wonder why Greg McKnight would be sending picard a check for interest earned from EBL and Legis. See memo at bottom left on check.

Maybe they would be interested in Legis complaint
http://www.4shared.com/file/46828811/85481038/Complaint.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but I think that EBL has finally bitten the dust. I'll make some
enquiries.

Pickard's real name is Michael Szczepaniak

And his address is

950 Southridge Greens #7
Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
United States
(970) 207-9808

I suspect that he and Craig Jolly are/were running the EBL scam together.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think that EBL has finally bitten the dust. I'll make some
enquiries.

Pickard's real name is Michael Szczepaniak

And his address is

950 Southridge Greens #7
Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
United States
(970) 207-9808

I suspect that he and Craig Jolly are/were running the EBL scam together.

It does seem to have been closed.

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Comment by Alan
2008-05-05 17:08:12
That is true. EBL is now officially closed. I cannot mention the precise reason but a refund process in being put into effect. So far those who have loaned using e-bullion have been refunded.

All I can say about this is that it would’ve continued had it not been for a certain outside influence.

Happy investing to you all.

http://www.destyonline.com/a-curious-investment-opportunity/

My bet is on that certain outside influence being most of their money was in Legisi. Read the Legisi complaint I posted along with the check above. Greg Mcknight has been indicted and assets frozen. Watch the refunds trickle to a stop. EBL was almost an exact replication of Legisi.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha, I like it ... a scammer (Craig Jolly) being scammed by another scammer (Greg McKnight).
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How interesting.

Those poor EBL members,

not only has their darling collapsed and been mentioned in connection with Legisi, but they've been arguing for months with someone using the "littleroundman" nick, and it wasn't even me.

What a waste,

all that vitriol and insults directed at "littleroundman" and I didn't know a thing about it.

http://nobsnetwork.net/specific-hyip-discussion/392-earnbyloaning-com-33.html#post9112
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curiouser and curiouser,

it appears the name of "traderj" has also been taken in vain on NOBS,

Given the fact the SEC presented pages from downloaded in May last year from NOBS in evidence presented in the Legisi case, one would certainly hope nobody gets sufficiently annoyed to present further evidence of collusion and take things further.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Jolly In Deep Sh*t Reply with quote

SEC Accuses Investment Site Of $4M Ponzi Scheme
Securities Law 360 (subscription) - New York,NY,USA
... US Securities and Exchange Commission alleging that its Web site, EarnByLoaning.com, defrauded investors of more than $4 million through a Ponzi scheme. ...
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SEC Accuses Investment Site Of $4M Ponzi Scheme

Law360, New York (February 10, 2009) -- Online investment firm Quest Holdings Inc. is facing a lawsuit from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission alleging that its Web site, EarnByLoaning.com, defrauded investors of more than $4 million through a Ponzi scheme.

The complaint, filed on Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Washington, alleges that Quest and its CEO, Craig T. Jolly, promised investors monthly returns of...

Site, is subscripton but wouldn't take my email address.

U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Litigation Release No. 20890 / February 9, 2009
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Craig T. Jolly and Quest Holdings, Inc., Case No. CV-09-38-EFS (E.D. Wash. filed February 9, 2009)
The Securities and Exchange Commission today filed securities fraud and other charges against Quest Holdings, Inc. and its principal, Craig T. Jolly, of Spokane, Washington, for operating an internet-based Ponzi scheme promising monthly returns of up to 19.5 percent.

According to the complaint, defendants Quest and Jolly raised approximately $4 million from more than 200 investors, located throughout the country and abroad, through the issuance of short-term securities promising monthly interest rates as high as 19.5 percent. Jolly raised funds by offering and selling Quest securities through Quest's website, EarnByLoaning.com. As set forth in the complaint, Jolly claimed to be active in the investment community and financial markets and falsely assured investors that Quest had a reserve fund to ensure that they would be repaid.

In reality, the Commission alleges, Jolly invested only about one-third of the investor funds he received, on which he suffered hundreds of thousands of dollars in trading losses. The complaint also alleges that defendants operated a Ponzi scheme and repaid purported profits to investors from funds provided by later investors, not from earnings on Quest's investment activities. In addition, the Commission alleges that Jolly misappropriated at least $628,000 of investor funds, which he used for his own stock trading and to pay for his vehicles, medical bills and other personal expenses.

The Commission's complaint, filed in federal district court for the Eastern District of Washington, charges Quest and Jolly with violating the antifraud and registration provisions of the federal securities laws, and seeks entry of an order for an asset freeze, injunctions, an accounting, disgorgement, and civil penalties.

The Commission's litigated action against Jolly and Quest charges both with violating Sections 5(a), 5(c) and 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5 thereunder. The Commission seeks permanent injunctions, an accounting, appointment of a receiver, an asset freeze, disgorgement with prejudgment interest, and civil monetary penalties.

SEC Complaint in this matter

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2009/lr20890.htm
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